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Is Netscape 8 The Best of Both Worlds?

screengrabDid you know there's a Netscape 8 beta about? If you're like me you like to think it died at version 4 and had no idea there were ever versions 5, 6 and 7. Well, I've installed version 8 nonetheless and had a play.

Now, to me, Netscape is a product I will never feel comfortable with using. I still think back to NN4 and the nightmares that that one browser caused us all for so many years. Is NN8 any better though? Well, essentially it's just a jazzed-up version of Firefox. If your sites work in Firefox they'll work in Netscape 8, so nothing to worry about there. If your sites don't work in Firefox then the NN8 user has a snazzy new feature to rely on: you can switch "rendering engines" between Gecko (name of the one used by the Mozilla suite) and IE. This one feature is something I'm growing to like and can see myself almost coming to rely on.

screengrabRight click a page in NN8 and you see an additional menu item which lets you easily toggle the browser engine used. Netscape 8 is, in effect, two browsers in one!

Best of all you can have NN8 remember which browser to use for which site. If you prefer to use the default Firefox engine on most sites, but your online banking requires IE, you can have NN8 remember this for the next time you visit the site.

Here's the Site Control settings. Noticed it's remember the setting for my site because I opted to switch browser engines. AFAIK it won't create an entry for every site you visit. Just those you change the default options for.

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So, you can do all your browsing from one interface. And what an interface it is! Not my cup of tea at all and the one thing that will put me off using it more than I have done already in writing this. Just like Real Player it looks like it's designed to appeal to teenagers, hungry for a little eye candy.

Not only does it look bad but it's slow-loading too. And there's a certain amount of AOL-style information overload: Weather forecast for Ohio, plus recent localised US news and other stuff I really don't want as defaults with my install.

However, with the use of a half decent theme, which tones it down a little, I've got to admit I can almost see myself using Netscape as a primary browser. Now there's something I never thought I'd hear myself say. If only I wasn't so pig-headed that I refuse to use something called Netscape!

So is this the future of the browser then? One browser with multiple engines? Although it's still probably a lot to ask of a user that they understand the need to switch engines when they have a problem. Maybe, as web developers, we could use a meta tag to tell the browser which engine our site works best with.

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    • Romano soprano
    • Mon 14 Mar 2005 02:30

    With 10+ firefox extensions working just the way I like I will not make a switch anytime soon. For viewing pages in IE I just use ieview extension. And vice-versa FirefoxView to switch from IE to FF.

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    • Lee
    • Mon 14 Mar 2005 02:57

    Jake,

    I don't think it'll ever be the answer, or at least I hope not!

    I can't see more than a handful of users ever switching to Netscape 8 full-stop, let alone working out the rendering engine capabilities!! I assume you were being a bit hopeful...

    I think the most likely outcome for the future is that IE will replicate or use the Gecko rendering engine, and incorporate most of Firefox's features, thus removing the need for users to switch. If that doesn't happen then hopefully Firefox will become more abundant.

    Incidentally, as Netscape gave the Gecko engine to the open-source community years ago, why is it that they still release a separate browser? I don't really know about the history of this, but from a layman's point of view it seems a bit strange...

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    • Josef
    • Mon 14 Mar 2005 05:03

    Hi,

    there is a bigger problem - when I browse certain pages in FF, I get a question asking me what it should do with a file caller "adrun.dll" which seems to be a program to control ads on that page.

    I get no such error in IE which means it runs it without a warning.

    If I start using NN8, will I be able to ALWAYS tell if I am in the safe (viewing with Gecko engine)? Do the security settings apply to BOTH engines EQUALLY?

    Cheers

  1. Lee -

    re: two browsers... as I understand it, opensourcing the engine means you can implement it any way you like. Netscape "implements" gecko... they want their own interface so they can push non-rendering engine specific functionality at you, namely some of the UI features Jake mentions that are "defaults". You could offer an implementation as well if you liked.

    Josef -

    Good question. Does NN8 _use_ the IE rendering engine or mimic it?

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    • Jake Howlett
    • Mon 14 Mar 2005 12:17

    Jerry. I'd be surprised if they were mimicking IE. How could they? Why would they? Surely it's just an embedded IE.

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    • Ben
    • Mon 14 Mar 2005 20:50

    .... and if it's embedding IE it makes it a pretty much useless feature for all use *nix users. Oh well.

    Ben

  2. I dunno... maybe it's like "quirks" mode. Think near-beer. All the flavor, none of the effect. ;-)

  3. "Display like Internet Explorer" feature sounds like Koka Kola not the real thing - Coca Cola. Yes it can pass as Cherry Cola but I am not buying it. Sad that NetScape used to have 90% of the market share and now it's just a silent movie from the 20s; funny and entertaining but not useful.

    - Hybrid

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